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odly · Jan 04, 2008, 01:10 PM // 13:10

Thanks a lot.

Having an explantion like this does add a lot to understanding the build. I'll give it a try again and see how it feels to me now.

zwei2stein · Jan 04, 2008, 01:17 PM // 13:17

Just question: why don't you use kurz/lux attack skill? Extra adrenaline for condition likely to be met by physical team, nice +damage ...

miprat · Jan 04, 2008, 01:27 PM // 13:27

you guys have all been very helpful thanks

I have been making my way thru GWEN so I could get Hayda. I really want to try a 3 paragon and Nec combo to see how that works.

Antithesis · Jan 04, 2008, 02:55 PM // 14:55

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Originally Posted by miprat

Well thanks to the help I received from people on this board(Thanks alot) this is the build i made for my paragon. I seem to be running into both adrenaline and energy issues. I guess i am not using the skills in progression correctly. Any advice would be great.

I run almost the same bar (different attacks, no tactics) with no energy or adrenaline problems. It's also probably the easiest bar of any class i've ever run...just silky smooth, particularly when combined with an Orders N/Rt or D/N running [skill=text]Order of Pain[/skill] and [skill=text]Dark Fury[/skill]. Check out Racthoh's post for the builds.

If you're struggling for Adrenaline, try Spear of Fury instead of Spear of Lightning. If you're struggling for energy try pumping more points into Leadership, wear Radiant insignia and remember to take a full party for maximum energy benefit from shouts. Or you could take [skill=text]Zealous Anthem[/skill] or [skill=text]Energizing Chorus[/skill] (don't waste the energy benefit on "Save Yourselves!", save it for "They're on Fire!").

xDusT II · Jan 04, 2008, 11:14 PM // 23:14

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Originally Posted by zwei2stein

Just question: why don't you use kurz/lux attack skill? Extra adrenaline for condition likely to be met by physical team, nice +damage ...

It uses up a valuable PvE only skill spot which could be better used for something else. The adrenaline gain is not really necessary and the damage can be more than made up with with "I am the strongest" and Ebon Vanguard Standard of Honor

Yichi · Jan 05, 2008, 12:29 AM // 00:29

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Originally Posted by Terraban

Congratulations, you just won in the Special Olympics!

This is epic....

Antithesis · Jan 05, 2008, 02:15 AM // 02:15

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Originally Posted by xDusT II

It uses up a valuable PvE only skill spot which could be better used for something else. The adrenaline gain is not really necessary and the damage can be more than made up with with "I am the strongest" and Ebon Vanguard Standard of Honor

He's right - you don't need Spear of Fury, any two low cost fast recharge energy-based spear attacks will do. Save Adrenaline for "Save Yourselves!" which will take care of energy problems. I haven't got "I am the Strongest" nor Ebon Honor, i'll definitely use them when i pick'em up in a physical heavy team.

xDusT II · Jan 05, 2008, 08:22 AM // 08:22

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Originally Posted by Antithesis

He's right - you don't need Spear of Fury, any two low cost fast recharge energy-based spear attacks will do. Save Adrenaline for "Save Yourselves!" which will take care of energy problems. I haven't got "I am the Strongest" nor Ebon Honor, i'll definitely use them when i pick'em up in a physical heavy team.

Ebon Vanguard Standard of Honor is not just for physical heavy teams, the damage bonus is applied to all damage sources, including spells, meaing it's a pretty amazing AoE damage buff.

blue.rellik · Jan 05, 2008, 12:30 PM // 12:30

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Originally Posted by xDusT II

Ebon Vanguard Standard of Honor is not just for physical heavy teams, the damage bonus is applied to all damage sources, including spells, meaing it's a pretty amazing AoE damage buff.

Holy crap! Are you serious? That makes it like one of the best skills in the game!

kobey · Jan 05, 2008, 03:37 PM // 15:37

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Originally Posted by blue.rellik

Holy crap! Are you serious? That makes it like one of the best skills in the game!

but u need to be within the ward to get its effect

usually, warriors and minions gets out of the wards range for me

Racthoh · Jan 05, 2008, 07:53 PM // 19:53

Every tick of an AoE gets the bonus damage. Pretty good for H/H when Herta's stone daggers have +30 damage and Sandstorm can do upwards of +150 damage.

Antithesis · Jan 06, 2008, 02:10 AM // 02:10

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Originally Posted by xDusT II

Ebon Vanguard Standard of Honor is not just for physical heavy teams, the damage bonus is applied to all damage sources, including spells, meaing it's a pretty amazing AoE damage buff.

Sweet!

By physical heavy i mean my Para, Hayda, Morgahn and Melonni or Olias (Orders). The rest are casters (i hate H/H Warrior AI, rarely use Rangers) so all will be in the ward. Sounds like hench Monks can do some useful wanding damage and contribute more than just defense.

blue.rellik · Jan 06, 2008, 05:34 AM // 05:34

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Originally Posted by kobey

but u need to be within the ward to get its effect

usually, warriors and minions gets out of the wards range for me

That's cool, I mainly play with H/H and they enjoy bunching up

kobey · Jan 06, 2008, 05:51 AM // 05:51

its good enuf on its own.
if u r using it as a paragon character, other eles, paragons, ranger and fiend minions usually get affected by it. As for warriors and horrors/minions, you might need to get closer to affect them.